From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:39:42 +0900 Message-ID: <87myif76dt.fsf@xemacs.org> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <84od39q9mv.fsf@boris.laptop> <84abesum0g.fsf@boris.laptop> <841w03v389.fsf@boris.laptop> <84wshvtgoz.fsf@boris.laptop> <87od363q1i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iqtd4ubu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877i9s4pf5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hc8vf97n.fsf@xemacs.org> <878wu3fd4r.fsf@xemacs.org> <87fxoa112r.fsf@xemacs.org> <87ljy0z7q9.fsf@xemacs.org> <48C7B2C6.9030409@pajato.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221100507 27060 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2008 02:35:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Michael Reilly Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 11 04:36:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kdc2G-00050i-Ip for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:35:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50399 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdc1G-0005pA-2i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdc1B-0005of-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdc18-0005m6-7a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:34:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43680 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdc17-0005lz-US for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:50973) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kdc0z-0004W8-Ji; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B96C8034; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:34:29 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FE701A2972; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:39:42 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <48C7B2C6.9030409@pajato.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 83e35df20028+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103792 Archived-At: Paul Michael Reilly writes: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > ... and as I pointed out to Stefan, for many users it would be > > very convenient and would cause no harm to transcode the headers too. > > I could not chase down that message and I'm a little confused about > transcoding headers to the extent that I understand them to be ASCII > per rfc2822. Stefan is correct: it will NOT be ASCII per RFC 2822; it will no longer be proper mbox format. Many tools (eg, most versions of Python's email module) will immediately fatal error on it. *But* it would be useful to Rmail (which would need very little extra coding to handle it, I believe) and to plain-text tools such as grep. For users (Francesco seems to be one, and I bet Richard is, too) who do not plan to use other MUAs, the extra convenience of this extension to mbox format would be very useful. Note that the reverse translation is trivial, too, since the functions needed to MIME-encode the headers are easily available (probably already in Rmail?, certainly in Gnus).