From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Oop customization group Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:14:28 +0900 Message-ID: <87my8kgasb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <93AA5CFC-247B-4DD7-9E4E-168F8D6DB7D4@gmail.com> <129D9AC44DD94AFCB28C267A28E19785@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244333503 30429 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2009 00:11:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 00:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Reitter' , 'Emacs-Devel devel' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 07 02:11:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MD5z8-0003ln-HS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:11:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41616 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MD5z7-0007yG-Iv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MD5z3-0007xu-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MD5yy-0007tU-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57264 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MD5yx-0007t9-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:49640) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MD5yx-0002xS-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87B61537B8; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:11:15 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 270491A2664; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:14:29 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <129D9AC44DD94AFCB28C267A28E19785@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 83e35df20028+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111360 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Group inheritance can be multiple. This is essentially a tagging > mechanism (in the sense of del.icio.us tags, not Emacs tags), No, it's not, not until the UI reflects that. The issue with Customize as it stands is that it's organized according to the developers' tastes, and groups are strongly module-oriented, although users often see commonalities not reflected in the implementation's structure. If we're going to go in the direction of d.i.u-style tagging, what I think is needed is some way to communicate users' idea (ie, some sort of consensus which may still be somewhat ambiguous or confused, not coherent, well-thought-out individual systems) to the distribution.