From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The current rules for making Emacs binaries available on the net? Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:38:51 +0900 Message-ID: <87mxw0gxl0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <9B30A326-3575-409D-B989-7D981A845C8D@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273992101 27176 80.91.229.12 (16 May 2010 06:41:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 06:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 16 08:41:40 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODXXb-0001JW-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 May 2010 08:41:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51051 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODXXb-0007Ke-6Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 May 2010 02:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45510 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODXXT-0007KM-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2010 02:41:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODXXO-0000On-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2010 02:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:39149) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODXXO-0000OX-JC; Sun, 16 May 2010 02:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FC61535A8; Sun, 16 May 2010 15:41:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B5211A3702; Sun, 16 May 2010 15:38:52 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <9B30A326-3575-409D-B989-7D981A845C8D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124817 Archived-At: David Reitter writes: > In my experience, binary distributions are not necessarily > productive in that sense. But remember that an Emacs "binary" distribution usually contains source Lisp[1], and coding Lisp is the most productive way for newcomers to contribute (and some oldtimers, too, hello Drew! :-) Even if they've never done it before; the Emacs C code is full of strange constructs like DEFUN and redisplay and Mule and GCPRO, and even experienced C hackers can get turned around in it. Footnotes: [1] I was disgusted to discover that Ubuntu packages for my Sharp Netwalker don't contain source for XEmacs core Lisp.