From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Rose Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Google modules integration Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:03:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87mxrojbeg.fsf@gmx.de> References: <878w3a1x9s.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <1284140876.2505.23.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <87hbhxifjd.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284235426 1073 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2010 20:03:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dave@lab6.com, carsten.dominik@gmail.com, julien@danjou.info, yandros@MIT.EDU To: emacs-devel Mailinglist Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 11 22:03:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuWIY-00064H-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:03:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57493 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OuWIW-0003hF-5T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48458 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OuWIP-0003h5-3O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:03:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuWIN-0006Ni-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:03:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:38434 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuWIN-0006NP-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Sep 2010 20:03:26 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO beteigeuze.gmx.de) [92.117.241.19] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 11 Sep 2010 22:03:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #8529601 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18osOAcRTQoJE2ZSsELNPReJ2qb5MsDLA8jiJkoyo EIMnJOu0+2DTMx In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:49:48 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129995 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Some examples > > that I have used myself in the past: > > > > http://housingmaps.com/ > > http://mapwow.com/ > > It's illegal to do so, without displaying googles copyright notice on > the map (if you do not buy a commercial license...). > > It is plausible Google can use copyright to make this requirement on > sites that show the map data to others. However, getting and viewing > the data yourself is a different issue entirely. > > It's simply illegal to use google-maps.el. > > I don't believe it. I doubt Google either would or could enforce > copyright to stop individual users from looking at the maps. You might be right. I think I misinterpreted this text here: http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/help/terms_maps_earth.html states: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8-- 2. Restrictions on Use. Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not: (a) access or use the Products or any Content through any technology or means other than those provided in the Products, or through other explicitly authorized means Google may designate (such as through the Google Maps/Google Earth APIs); (b) copy, translate, modify, or make derivative works of the Content or any part thereof; (c) redistribute, sublicense, rent, publish, sell, assign, lease, market, transfer, or otherwise make the Products or Content available to third parties; .... --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8-- Many third party software uses google maps, but I'm not sure, what applies here and what steps they have to take to use the maps. If you want to use google maps on a web site (i.e. provide them for public use), you need a valid API key which is valid per site, not per person. A native speaker could start here to find out more: http://www.google.com/intl/en-us/help/legalnotices_maps.html Sebastian