From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What level to put STARTTLS certificates Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:01:58 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87mxhisw21.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308172841 16767 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2011 21:20:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:20:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 23:20:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWxVo-00065c-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:20:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45336 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWxVm-0008AR-JX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:20:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWwI7-0003Wl-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWwI3-0001aZ-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56607) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWwI2-0001aQ-OT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWwHx-0005YU-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:02:09 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.133 ([38.98.147.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:02:09 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.133 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:02:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.133 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xklS9oQUK12kSAFuP88k+gX8DRo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140516 Archived-At: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:29:28 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> ;;(setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials LMI> ;; '(("YOUR SMTP HOST" 25 "~/.my_smtp_tls.key" "~/.my_smtp_tls.cert"))) LMI> But it strikes me that this is probably on the totally wrong level. I LMI> mean, any TLS connection can have user keys/certs connected to them, so LMI> it seems to me that the right level to control this is on the LMI> network-stream.el level, and not on the LMI> smtpmail.el/pop3.el/nntp.el/imap.el level. LMI> So I think I'll get rid of that variable, and put this stuff into LMI> network-stream.el instead. Cool. LMI> I'm thinking the right place to stash this is in ~/.authinfo, since LMI> these are credentials. The format will be LMI> machine smtp.gmail.com port 587 tls-key file:~/.my_smtp_tls.key tls-cert file:~/.my_smtp_tls.cert LMI> Any objections? Why do you need a file: prefix? It should only work with local files (we pass the file names in `gnutls-boot' to GnuTLS with `gnutls_certificate_set_x509_key_file' so remote files can't work). We could support inlined certificates I guess, but it seems like it's better to assume the token is a file name and extend it later. It's by far the most common case and the only one gnutls.c supports right now. Looks good otherwise. Ted