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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multi-platform build system
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:27:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxd4bbwu.fsf@wanadoo.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87aa948k9e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:55:09 +0900")

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
>> Experience shows that a cmake spec usually is a fraction of the
>> length of the equivalent autoconf+automake/Makefile spec,
>> line-wise. Maintenance work is proportionally reduced. It's easier
>> to add new features, too.
>
> Off-topic, but I'm quite skeptical of this claim, compared to
> automake.  Makefile.am files tend to be pretty darn close to the
> minimal amount of information required to build (in typical cases: a
> list of source files), and very easy to extend.
>
> Automake's implementation is not very pretty, but the interface
> presented to the user is extremely good.

Well, automake scripts can be easy once you know how to handle them, but
auto* seems hard to learn.

My first experience with a big and complex project was LLVM
(www.llvm.org) What they have now is half as complex as the system I
wrote because they removed features (because of changing trade-off). It
took me a few weekends to write (keep in mind that I was a total
beginner with cmake) being the main time-consuming factor the large
amount of time each test build required. Since, people who had no
previous experience with autoconf/make nor with cmake claim to be more
at easy with the cmake build.

All of this is very subjective, of course. The Emacs build is not your
typical C/C++ project, which cmake is optimized for, but neither it is
LLVM, and it worked very well.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-14  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-13 21:01 Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS (was: Emacs pretest 24.0.90) Dani Moncayo
2011-10-13 22:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:23   ` Dani Moncayo
2011-10-13 23:37     ` Multi-platform build system (was: Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS) Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  0:09       ` Multi-platform build system Miles Bader
2011-10-14  0:31         ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  0:55           ` Miles Bader
2011-10-14  1:27             ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2011-10-14  0:41       ` Multi-platform build system (was: Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS) Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-14  1:43         ` Multi-platform build system Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  6:17           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-14  1:06       ` Multi-platform build system (was: Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS) Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  1:18         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-10-14  1:20           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  1:47             ` Multi-platform build system Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  1:33         ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  1:43           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  2:52             ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-14  3:17               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  1:57         ` Miles Bader
2011-10-14  2:05           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  2:28             ` Miles Bader
2011-10-14  2:31               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-14  5:01           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-14 13:18       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-14  8:20     ` Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS (was: Emacs pretest 24.0.90) Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:09   ` Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS Miles Bader
2011-10-14  8:16     ` Eli Zaretskii

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