From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-platform build system Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:57:06 +0900 Message-ID: <87mxd472tp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <83pqi01rcl.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcrsbgzb.fsf_-_@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318557441 22549 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2011 01:57:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 03:57:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1O-0008Ns-2u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:57:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1N-0002QZ-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1L-0002QU-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1K-0008RK-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:50143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1J-0008R9-TC; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from 61.245.23.167.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([61.245.23.167] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1REX1H-0007oF-4q; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:57:07 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D6D9DFBD; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:57:06 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:06:14 +0200") Original-Lines: 25 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 203.216.5.74 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145184 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: >> Time ago I volunteered to write a CMake [1] build spec for Emacs. It was >> considered unnecessary by the people who does most of the work on the >> current build systems. > > IIRC, it was also unacceptable, because the user would need CMake to > build Emacs, as opposed to just generating makefiles than can be > packed into the tarball. Is that so, or am I misremembering? That is so ... cmake, like most build-systems, requires itself to be installed for the builder, not just the packager; the autotools are fairly unique in _not_ requiring this [though I have seen some other systems that kinda do it]. [Another somewhat rare property of autoconf is the emphasis on feature-_testing_ instead of version/system-name-driven configuration; this may be less useful on windows, which seems to have a smaller amount of variability, but of course it's invaluable on unixy systems...] -Miles -- Joy, n. An emotion variously excited, but in its highest degree arising from the contemplation of grief in another.