From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Project systems (again) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:03:23 +0400 Message-ID: <87mwfiraz8.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <53504D2C.7070504@dancol.org> <83y4z3gn3n.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1397829828 17248 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2014 14:03:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 18 16:03:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb9OG-0004qI-Iv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:03:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb9OG-0002Xb-53 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb9O8-0002XU-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:03:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb9O3-0001gw-6V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:03:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]:45933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wb9O2-0001gi-Ut; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id gl10so1435797lab.28 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=DKoGi4Of00r4qdnwhDLn3JaXOzFyCVuHYLNpv3nEfjk=; b=Kaa5Nj0917OCxofLuS2Fl7AEzJ810vXp+AroQlrk5YyPAw7stu5/5139QgvZFv+zOJ 0nXzIPxLjfJpKmVB16U4t/Cj6mzeRWJyUmpH6AJbwYUYcm2i+N/HS/UwcifgWz55rzNQ ER3IXP99bCC0OmTvNLfIoxRtLlmBnVdsYSeR7q6R4mptD2dEhydIQEQ7TLzjGS/XYp7x 5KX9GHzBOplr4g1nTsBTl+u1kkjmzP2OEkGeSnGfyfP7cEI7yqbEl/Yeco9X5FNtlVMe f6Vln/872ZksmvvOclaV/fw0htpyT1cVfM/3x3PNBdO+KPGL1P3u/ZycBWgGQXLCiD+0 GnzQ== X-Received: by 10.152.235.3 with SMTP id ui3mr14211144lac.2.1397829805627; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from axl ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k2sm27491998lbm.23.2014.04.18.07.03.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:03:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y4z3gn3n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Apr 2014 09:37:00 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171487 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > FWIW, I'd prefer that you work with EDE developers to improve and > extend what they have; starting from scratch (or almost from scratch) > sounds like waste of effort, especially since some of the EDE is > already in Emacs. I disagree: this wouldn't be starting from scratch. Projectile is one such existing system that people use, and a generic interface would allow for better integration with other packages, even those that choose to be project-management-system-agnostic, which is generally a good choice. Personally, I use Projectile already, and switching to EDE wouldn't be an improvement for my use. As a bonus, its primary developer (Bozhidar Batsov) already has copyright assignment on file, so it wouldn't be inconceivable to add it to GNU ELPA soon or eventually. But of course, there will be other contributors to take care of.