From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:41:14 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87mw71oh2t.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsftgd5.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83egsf3yci.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohq6nvn.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83mw722eit.fsf@gnu.org> <87egse56hb.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <87oarhzt87.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <20141205222416.GH7784@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417819271 17571 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 22:41:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:41:11 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 23:41:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1Yg-0005to-Iq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:41:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1Yg-0006O3-6K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:41:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36819) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1YK-0006FR-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:40:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1YD-0001N8-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1YD-0001N4-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:40:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1YB-0005fW-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:40:35 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:40:35 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:40:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 8 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5mSTOyTlF2yRSq0qk8ZBKeYuPaw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179047 Archived-At: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:24:16 -0500 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: ESR> And yet, we wonder why there are 500+ regulars on #emacs who don't dare ESR> set foot in here. Well, why should they? It's a hostile work environment. The environment here was actually pretty friendly and professional until recently. Ted