From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87mw67elgf.fsf@building.gnus.org> References: <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fxb9821.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <878uhrg6uu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tnj90lt.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419787551 4052 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 17:25:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , stephen@xemacs.org, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 18:25:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Hb1-0003m1-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:25:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Hb0-0002fY-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:25:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Hag-0002eV-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:25:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Haf-0008AJ-7Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:25:18 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:36812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Haa-00089l-N8; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.150.68.69.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.68.69] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5HaF-0006aV-M9; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:24:51 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEVHicja5eT///7///9M jspNjbx0epFilcZimMyrq7YLDQ5BdrExPFpDh8dWlMlWltBDJEBgAAABWElEQVQ4jcXUL27DMBQG cIPSgSQo0C4azS4wENyRBVWKNGKpUunU3aBBm5JIld4FBnKFaheYCnqBsWGPFi17z//mJC0a2Kcq qb+fHYNYYTcXwv4bhBtk+uegjgF4nDb8OuKpSGshLOxWACBXIOVOSsBLYyESQkQi5hEXHP8KPrcg ARpck0I93DyLAHAX4OnDCIRLLILMWbYZ5MneE5btKW8fo7QaJrWFScsMBIXPFcKwnM3yPL9lzMGR yvw3LNFwHLYUDcdJbQAfbEe9Sf6pwU2/632UUgQ0fxHUff+tgXr11U9h2lu4zxdK+e5UVS+0iQZl AUsbA7iAnlUFeSYolYZTCNuNA1UNe4JiAlvzaotyBO6dF3oJHgM/24OVMI8GyhAUFsWy1aAXmXux 1Mdp39pzFeZA8XAI8t51HYIfd2EQurP5M7zKtZQriRnDei0PhARwNsnFL8MPu3QqLeJkL3kAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: burn's _304 (Moon Base Big)_: "Wire!Red_Barked_Tree!01-Please_Take" In-Reply-To: <871tnj90lt.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (Nic Ferrier's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:54:06 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1Y5HaF-0006aV-M9 MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1420392291.87795@hRBcyJfKlUKEzwyRzHPJcw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180759 Archived-At: Nic Ferrier writes: > Oh wait. The HTML files are in the distribution and not the > installation... so we could alter the installation... but then where > would we get them from? I guess users will want a wrapper command around > eww.... If we were to use a web browser internally in Emacs to look at the documentation, there would be a command for doing that. Like, say, `C-h i'. > There are lots of things to sort out. I'm not sure eww is the right > starting point. So you keep claiming, but you haven't said why. > But if you think it is then go to it! Like I said, I no clear idea what all y'all are after here. I think Info works just fine inside of Emacs, and I see no particular reason to move to anything else. Moving to HTML might offer more flexible rendering, though, and I can sort of see some slight advantages to having the same files in Emacs as on the web, but, like, meh. > Specifically you can easily create a new buffer link from an existing > Info link (`info-menu'). I don't think you can do that in eww yet. Or am > I wrong? (defun eww-browse-url (url &optional new-window) ...) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/