From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaus Rath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201161 Archived-At: On Mar 08 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Sorry, I still don't follow your reasoning. I still consider myself a >> potential contributor (I didn't contribute much beyond that first little >> foray), and not requiring me to copy my commit message into the >> ChangeLog is not going to affect the quality of the commit measures in >> any way. The only "message" that I get from this is "Great, sending >> patches for Emacs doesn't require me to do a copy & paste anymore". > > As long as you don't have write access to the repository, you are not > required to provide the log entries more than once, and so this issue > doesn't really affect you. In that case I agree. However, this practice has the distinct disadvantage that a patch's submitter does not show up as the author of the commit. But that's a different discussion. (As I said in the other mail, I was actually working with the Gnus repo rather than the Emacs repo - thus the confusion about what the submitter needs to do). Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB