From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Continuous integration Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:43:52 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87mv83cedz.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87a88emy62.fsf@luca> <87d1d8ul7q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <22740.454.818489.461885@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <87h92jswrk.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83246C10-FB82-4BE0-80F7-A56F9A12951C@gmail.com> <87bmsrc64p.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87o9wq7i23.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85b7f49ba74f899e8e366f32a7772dce.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <878tnnm6yq.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87pogp1x53.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86tw5xzs1j.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <86mvbpzchj.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <87h900q3vk.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a846hjd7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85441dc3-1670-ce5b-c604-2624438e2631@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500302700 26824 195.159.176.226 (17 Jul 2017 14:45:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 14:45:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 16:44:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7GV-0006XT-A8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:44:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7Ga-0002N0-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7Fo-0002LM-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7Fk-0007eO-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:44:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=58146 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7Fk-0007e8-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dX7FZ-0003fy-PH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:43:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:JFLt8LanPXVsh/Gzkebhe6b99D4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216781 Archived-At: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:36:13 +0300 Dmitry Gutov wrote: DG> On 7/14/17 11:08 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> I think everyone is waiting. Besides me, no one else seems to have used >> the test GitLab instance. DG> And no email notifications means no actual usage. We turned off e-mail notifications so we don't annoy people. DG> I suspect what we actually need to do is to DG> - (optionally) Build a table of check marks with how the CI options correspond DG> to the criteria we've enumerated. I don't think that's necessary. DG> - Nag the Emacs maintainers and the FSF personnel about giving us a hardware, DG> or even setting up a GitLab instance themselves, for the Emacs developers to DG> use. We already did that. We're at the stage of determining what to set up as "the Emacs CI system." DG> - (important) Somehow deal with the perpetually-broken build and _set up email DG> notifications_. There is no other practical way to encourage everyone to use the DG> CI. And that's more essential than a (reasonable) choice of the CI server. If you're talking about the temporary evaluation setup on gitlab.com, I can work on that. But remember we're evaluating the CI system, not actually switching to gitlab.com. DG> So GitLab seems to come ahead as an obvious winner to me. If you really want us DG> to vote, probably better to put that call into a new thread, instead of deep in DG> the innards of this one. I'll record your vote and have posted a new article calling for votes. Thanks Ted