From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-26 275e735: More changes in the Emacs manuals Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:46:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87mv04ub35.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20180219161442.31005.31151@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180219161444.4763E20A22@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87r2pgudn0.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh9w9a97.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1519062264 6702 195.159.176.226 (19 Feb 2018 17:44:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:44:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 19 18:44:20 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1enpU6-00016T-Ld for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:44:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51609 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enpW8-0006H1-Ly for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:46:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enpW2-0006Gp-Af for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:46:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enpVz-0007mQ-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]:39135) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enpVy-0007lM-PA; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:46:10 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 191so9605816wmm.4; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:46:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=aHlRag2Wae2Qfp5hNH+gmGjKg9y5Yuyn5Oqn3FLK+Oc=; b=hv3qOeF84M1plzlNWhCgUSDT6HcQm5Yo0pTG4AA2CIsJTDzSPzQ3/yzXc9a7uZ/Rvy a+Prhgu0uA+hhqH6p27BqaF/e/m/NAZpNrYHUi7CvS9JGHlyDCcnFynbL9/zC1AErs0s tryW9hmZ/DS6v4bAOyr8ABuOVg7yPdMHUSP/jqqzlPxG2fYr82niS1lV76Z3WpcxJy4O 3Ckaqkqb7CHTzyL6GveAPAQnPrgfTh9O5I0H/lzdrJAu+/WQZT6yHiVcx3MZbMgWI0gg zPmeotfdIG2ewrIlMs7ngPD1m1rsRuWL4f9y8Yyji9/Nr/PvguyGOIHgHVZM/78lk9Ce pvJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=aHlRag2Wae2Qfp5hNH+gmGjKg9y5Yuyn5Oqn3FLK+Oc=; b=Q+jd0Gf8cuO5Q6DdehqjFrcbdD1D3UcN1jxr8nKsyBke/V+oTumMX3bO1g8R4af8TR BAgZxkg7LyQXb1m+6hJwkVKzE/63tMrjbTQT1mDCGV2kULZ8qC6yruD0NO1/o5GJXdf+ /VFK4/6sD79ebGmGfazQysaV6ajLuRSMSjk3ex/ViSneo7v+hv+66m5it+3JoMYw4qlm sppoN5ksxn22xCJaKMbIf8i2hMEYoSO9viiOzDx6OHOSNm7adyjv1GbEIZRuUyYVndcy UhOlt05WLgh/oO7ke/aqENK38UaDDjQh9sphz4FjpGbdOeW8+uMd2Q3VJfmvjEi3wtPg 2d0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAop+F6cnupOTSbNj1QkMMKOroJFS7wgFieEUE5k/+/DXky1kQ2 rg6ab/6bghJ2jYyTIEmfZhONBIww X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226ET3aRHF+owwAP+uxzmmDif8jytwgNbTxfHzQOYIB5xKu7GjR4PBD2gNKTQwuYLXNKn95Ssg== X-Received: by 10.28.234.8 with SMTP id i8mr3580287wmh.44.1519062369068; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 72sm23674937wmh.44.2018.02.19.09.46.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:46:08 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <83sh9w9a97.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:09:40 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222907 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:50:59 +0100 >> >> > You can use a numeric argument before a self-inserting character to >> > insert multiple copies of it. This is straightforward when the >> > -character is not a digit; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 a} inserts 64 >> > +character is not a digit; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 a}} inserts 64 >> > copies of the character @samp{a}. But this does not work for >> > -inserting digits; @kbd{C-u 6 4 1} specifies an argument of 641. You >> > -can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another >> > -@kbd{C-u}; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1} does insert 64 copies of >> > -the character @samp{1}. >> > +inserting digits; @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 1}} specifies an argument of 641. >> > +You can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another >> > +@kbd{C-u}; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1}} does insert 64 copies >> > +of the character @samp{1}. >> > >> >> 'does insert' => 'inserts'. There's no contrasting with a previous >> 'does not' phrase going on. > > Yes, there is such a contrast: note the "does not work" part. > If it said 'does not insert' I'd agree with you.