From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:16:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87must2y0u.fsf@gmail.com> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <877ejxsm18.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87r2i5308w.fsf@gmail.com> <8336ulv2le.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536329685 1734 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 14:14:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 14:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 16:14:41 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHWy-0000Ma-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:14:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHZ4-00060B-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57307) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHYu-0005z7-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:16:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHYr-0002zY-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::436]:37106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHYr-0002zI-8L; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:16:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id u12-v6so15116160wrr.4; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 07:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7nH+WRkeL6O/+HERVZ7kZNUAxVqNXFFC+A0VvmZe7sU=; b=Fa6eippFjA09hXSsmFuGuYAbBZHu8ZkXjVnTLRC9ULmy9DY2MzIs2Yhr9jdZeAwllb 3/fJ1waczslhnDL2l/hHSxJPKIPYMFGHL4mRHtYQPYV0DzJyv4TDAhSH4lEFGZKaeTu3 izUPyU3AgddKwQHpPl1ayIzvkp1Q+0d5s0/4UraEYM4S9fdnzN82WJrQuEV/Eqt6zGy8 IV4B8Yvps3SWfhZlKuuLU0imEWYG6za6Dj/as3nICuO0tq0C4nJ+9a8Zct9e03qoVvlt XUz33N35G/4xhiDp5HXDDFbpjvSJIwknMmoBezOPLCRbIP4E2mnc0Qgudulc7gp6NM2f Su2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7nH+WRkeL6O/+HERVZ7kZNUAxVqNXFFC+A0VvmZe7sU=; b=AC1NAdpzOnFAtZTb+4UtR/KzPe11DffoD3bnNxjfWOreocxr/xNuloptVJ2gu6hrF+ SXvSil4LX4hx+6mX2494Fpzbj/sPA+lSJk+SRi9T+0iaSbn8Fb3snRhCTvxLiaDA31Be 9tGNbobBuIwjRzWPGxmpxKHoCJR6bHVquFi9KhYvHOA/E0nYjjCxgX19qd6Tw4orkgyI I0dFcsWlmYopMDocpnYR2A2j15vqoyUJfer5cxiPP7PPnnbrB19G8tvy62WmQY14k+9o H4agntU+Hkpy4KKyt81TG+EhuJEQ3kIFSuqEO4ZV7QvrasdEOzbJ8PNS6M31eunRQSg1 A99Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51AzO8DW0+8cFyzycBMwK8Ur0aW1i6t0sUt+rY5WwSDrIh1TyOdQ iLraeze+FYFU9zgI1LvjP4ZAtY97 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYx84SISdpJzsbuU+yq8Pa9L8fTpRDG3RTZlsisGkgzlKyQe7dTzv/z9rdcPCp28yPE5K1Nrg== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4c49:: with SMTP id n9-v6mr6589617wrt.71.1536329795656; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 07:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l7-v6sm10428884wrt.67.2018.09.07.07.16.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Sep 2018 07:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <8336ulv2le.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:50:21 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::436 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229403 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 15:28:31 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >>=20 >> > I prefer to think of it as a very convenient feature. For example, as >> > I typed this email, I first wrote "as I composed" instead of "as I >> > typed", pressed Control+Shift+Left Arrow, and pressed "typed". >> > Similarly, I had first written "I call it" instead of "I prefer to >> > think of it", and the way I changed one into the other was to select >> > "call it" and type "prefer to think of it as". >>=20 >> Neither of those require 'replace selected' behaviour, since you could >> easily use M-DEL instead. > > In Emacs, yes. Let's not assume everybody here uses only Emacs for > each and every editing job. I try to, and then get very annoyed when other programs do things differently (I=CA=BCm looking at you here, Firefox URL bar). > So I'm with Cl=C3=A9ment on this one. I wasn't picking a side, nor do I think we should pick one for anyone else. Robert