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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A target that's even more bootstrap?
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:29:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muid2a9m.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834l4mubi6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:03:13 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:53:02 +0100
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> mostlyclean
>> clean
>> distclean
>> maintainer-clean
>> extraclean
>> bootstrap-clean
>> 
>> The the irregular hyphenation is a bit odd.
>
> clean, distclean, mostlyclean, and maintainer-clean are from the GNU
> Coding Standards (GCS).  Many projects have extraclean.  So this is
> tradition of sorts.
>
>> But, in addition, I would guess that many of these levels
>> (maintainer-clean, extraclean and bootstrap-clean) are really only
>> there to save time; with parallel builds and faster machines I
>> wonder how many of these are actually needed.
>
> AFAIK, the issue at hand is not the speed, the issue is to know what
> generated files get deleted.  Some builds require a specific target
> from this list to be run before the build.  For example, if you weant
> to reconfigure from scratch, you want distclean.
>
>> If I understand it, distclean is most severe. So, why not ditch
>> everything other than distclean and clean?
>
> Because the GCS says otherwise?

The GCS differentiate between "clean" and "mostlyclean" with "may". So,
mostlyclean and clean could be the same. The only difference that is
needed between "distclean" and "maintainer-clean" is that former needs
to delete configure while the latter doesn't (AFAICT, doesn't need
anything else to generate configure). extraclean isn't required and but
could be the same as maintainer-clean. And bootstrap-clean is also not
required -- it could be maintainer-clean. So, it could be made simpler.

But, alas, the inconsistent hyphenation is part of the GCS, so guess we
are stuffed there.

Phil



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-19  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-18 11:22 A target that's even more bootstrap? Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-18 12:27   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:53 ` Phillip Lord
2019-06-18 13:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:28     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 16:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19  9:29     ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2019-06-19 15:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 13:15     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 14:00       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-19 15:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 15:32         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 15:58   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 16:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 17:47     ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-18 19:22       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-19  4:32         ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-06-19  5:29           ` Teemu Likonen
2019-06-19 15:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 20:06               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-19 20:19                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 20:26                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-20  2:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 11:53           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 12:33         ` Andy Moreton
2019-06-19 12:45           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-19 13:35             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-19 13:46               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 15:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 15:43                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 15:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 16:12                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 17:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 17:29                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 18:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 11:32                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 14:23                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 15:10                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 16:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-21 10:51                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-21 22:03                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23  2:48                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-20 16:23                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 16:27                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 16:46                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 16:47                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 18:24                                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-19 15:29             ` Phillip Lord
2019-06-19 15:59               ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-19 16:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 16:35                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-19 17:03                     ` Out of tree builds [was Re: A target that's even more bootstrap?] Glenn Morris
2019-06-19 17:30                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-19 17:13                     ` A target that's even more bootstrap? Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 17:43                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-20 13:49                   ` Phillip Lord

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