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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255518 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Ricardo Wurmus >> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 22:13:30 +0200 >> Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ghe@sdf.org, tecosaur@gmail.com >>=20 >> Interesting! In my Emacs the background of the selection is close to >> black, so for typed text that=E2=80=99s fine, but it=E2=80=99s indeed su= b-optimal when >> selecting the red comment text. Perhaps the difference is because I set >> up a dark GTK theme (the toolbar has a dark background, for example). > > The behavior you have on your system isn't the Emacs default: we don't > invert colors to display the region, we only specify a different > background color (see the default definition of the 'region' face). I=E2=80=99m used =E2=80=9Cemacs -Q=E2=80=9D and I=E2=80=99m on Guix where w= e don=E2=80=99t patch Emacs to have different defaults. I also have nothing in my .Xdefaults or .Xresources that should affect Emacs. --=20 Ricardo