Hello Richard, Richard Stallman [2020-09-13, 23:48 -0400]: > I looked at the web page about Solarized. It sounds interesting, > but I wonder what it looks like. Can anyone tell me how to see > those colors in some text? (Any text.) Please see attached screenshots for solarized-light and solarized-dark respectively. Just a hint at what to expect on an 'emacs -Q' plus the loaded theme. > What I read seemed to say that Solarized is a color palette, > and there are many ways to use it. I'd like to see the palette. > Emacs's predefined faces amount to a color palette. > I wonder if using Solarized colors for them could be an improvement. > A priori, that may or may not be so. Solarized is one of the best colour palettes in terms of what it tried to achieve, namely, a 16-colour palette that adapts to light and dark variations and which strives for a fairly consistent level of luminance. My opinion is that Emacs' default faces should be designed with accessibility (readability) in mind. A minimum contrast ratio of 4.5:1 between a given foreground and background combination ensures that Emacs will be readable out-of-the-box for the majority of people. If you want to be even more inclusive, a minimum 7:1 contrast ratio is recommended. Solarized fails on the accessibility front (not its designer's fault, as that was not its goal). Many colour combinations are well below the minimum 4.5:1 threshold. The following table shows the relative luminance of all colours of the palette compared with the four base background values (table's image with colour previews also attached). | SOLARIZED | HEX | #002b36 | #073642 | #eee8d5 | #fdf6e3 | |-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------| | base03 | #002b36 | 1.00 | 1.15 | 12.25 | 13.92 | | base02 | #073642 | 1.15 | 1.00 | 10.61 | 12.05 | | base01 | #586e75 | 2.79 | 2.42 | 4.39 | 4.99 | | base00 | #657b83 | 3.37 | 2.92 | 3.64 | 4.13 | | base0 | #839496 | 4.75 | 4.11 | 2.58 | 2.93 | | base1 | #93a1a1 | 5.61 | 4.86 | 2.18 | 2.48 | | base2 | #eee8d5 | 12.25 | 10.61 | 1.00 | 1.14 | | base3 | #fdf6e3 | 13.92 | 12.05 | 1.14 | 1.00 | | yellow | #b58900 | 4.68 | 4.05 | 2.62 | 2.98 | | orange | #cb4b16 | 3.26 | 2.82 | 3.76 | 4.27 | | red | #dc322f | 3.25 | 2.81 | 3.77 | 4.29 | | magenta | #d33682 | 3.30 | 2.86 | 3.71 | 4.21 | | violet | #6c71c4 | 3.43 | 2.97 | 3.57 | 4.06 | | blue | #268bd2 | 4.08 | 3.53 | 3.00 | 3.41 | | cyan | #2aa198 | 4.75 | 4.12 | 2.58 | 2.93 | | green | #859900 | 4.69 | 4.06 | 2.62 | 2.97 | Please refer to this spec for the technical details of the formula that tests for compliance with the WCAG standard for colour contrast: . That granted, Solarized would make for a good basis to build derivative works off of. My comment concerns the overall framework or set of guidelines that should inform the choice of colours and design overall. For an alternative that conforms with the WCAG AAA standard (7:1), has broad face/package coverage, and is highly customisable, consider either of the themes 'modus-operandi' (light) and 'modus-vivendi' (dark) which are in the Emacs master branch. Disclosure: I am their author and will share their latest version, as well as an Info manual, at the end of this month. Best regards, Protesilaos -- Protesilaos Stavrou protesilaos.com