From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:36:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87mu1fb8kb.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87d02ej7bq.fsf@gnus.org> <874knoekki.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: nicolas.rougier@inria.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 24 15:37:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLRR1-0003sT-BQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:37:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50552 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLRR0-0003Tg-D4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLRQV-00032E-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:36:47 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:45838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLRQT-000577-DU; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:36:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tBNtsuFU757wbWESO5ylqPqp30RHP8UIOzZsA9iVaVk=; b=pF6sANy8DCyLfV2b1XMfatOaak qbJJ4oZa0awf5VWpjcsJ4FYTjJpYo11/E5vQydHeS7hAoPw9BBxiUNZ4PJ+YT2NdGCZm0GhME5i/A RWyBNxWRdHVHP585j/2GX+Xe7R+Lba65ki8M/NJfTUdBEbZ6MrecApTC284uvjGDsav0=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLRQL-0006ko-UA; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:36:40 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX59fDgy9/QtdS4 jsObYa7////LZt21AAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+QJGA0gMow3CEQAAAGpSURBVDjLfVSL kYQgDCVuAyQ2YGAbEGlAof+aLiSA3u3OZWZdzPPlT5xDFWJiRkKvb4zOQTDhgIHk2WVzi+io6UWL 3I5kAIT5GWMQK08GE6KZk9MAhOjdLaBPMob7kD/AzZTQnwDiNgDUqG5gcIgU6K/gp60ebjcAUo9+ CuzdejMk836K/E+4dAOAN+CfwJOB8uMR7SiIU+XNkPJF/60krXkPHxPABsE3gJLY6plbHmYYYNrS zJffjTLhZorVFBAjJuwcEgZ1oBbMeaeDrewz81etfMX9XZM1qvngDuyx7rlegzGBpEAqVoRt1OpV j/Ndz3xco7UdWGrhXMWHAsvNgPeOsTAlmo2iUXaZKz8mUZRkKYFEuCYkK8OiPvQIR0KJeK2nAswD eJ2ZajlD1HAXSbD7eF051XLlXPqIKasBaT0llePoCXoNuQEl7g9AGMAWVc0c67bma/jopmQqWz/g 8KOIMOfqOXDSKKAvk7jIxZEOIkK7yLYV/GgU2YUPQfaFjGz714+kLLYA2gJpElh3iY6PEdQaygYg Qut52yJsa4b0a9Hw56wN+QHLNkp6R8zzFQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0wOS0yNFQx MzozMjo0OSswMDowMH7SV8IAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMDktMjRUMTM6MzI6NDkr MDA6MDAPj+9+AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Fairport Convention's _Liege & Lief_: "Reynardine" In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 23 Sep 2020 21:32:08 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256392 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > If FSF's legal counsel says that this magical phrase has to be on the > > Emacs splash screen... then perhaps it's time for the FSF to get new > > legal counsel? > > It is not "magical". It is information we want users to know, > so we show it to them. > > Part of the reason we want them to know it is legal. Part of it > is to soread awareness of the FSF and the GNU GPL. This is important. So shouting a long sentence about "NO WARRANTY" towards all users is not something the FSF's legal counsel has insisted upon? Then I retract my snarky statement about them. This does not explain why you want this magical, nonsensical phrase to appear on the Emacs splash screen, though. How does the phrase lead to awareness about the FSF and the GNU GPL? > So we will keep this information in the splash screen. That's very autocratic of you, I'm sure. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no