From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: haj@posteo.de (Harald =?utf-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 2e090da: Revert commit 1f44a776729adf9c6468a76f8310616fde62eeaa for Flymake. Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87mu08wyjo.fsf@hajtower> References: <20201025101403.1168.4440@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20201025101404.7EBE2204DA@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87d015jp2t.fsf@hajtower> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3258"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philipp Stephani , Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 26 21:17:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8vo-0000l2-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 21:17:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8vn-0004OJ-GP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8cM-0004zg-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:42296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8cJ-0004w5-TB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40E916005C for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:57:17 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1603742237; bh=oaSeMhWFyz0cPCZuN6u7SBhS/s3rz2eTth0TGPPAIIs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=WkOGbxYTSDqRG2HOYr7bW3QNCYHL8RPXjM1PLloo44FPoQZvUPkH546fW6JZOqstL izn0gMeFzPkldBUTAYWEX1LWQsUT1fdNw/5zJsnC0PLpxm4a1ed1fOfzXnFD9aV14D EoCgqFK395eAAjdcC0e+3oCoyBV1GAI49fWWuXjQPYHM7/1s0CSt0MO2LvIwdgSuyD q+1ijBGLHxEbBPNlCKt3yg372sOdeSojw5PhAJ4CVbtk4DT+oMYhS4VQ4hnQHZwy3a dNtFrn0AatqhxlRurgf6HKQPt8UFij4/D2yiv2PXrLJx+0jtzSnUj/5A3mXplbBJqh aNcJy54E0Vh6Q== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4CKlwr2ZFCz6tm9; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:57:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:23:01 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=haj@posteo.de; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/26 14:24:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258477 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Harald J=C3=B6rg writes: > >> Could such an ert-backport.el be a candidate for ELPA? It should be >> useful for all dual-life (Emacs + ELPA) packages. > > How about just making ert itself into a GNU ELPA core package? I'd be happy with that. ert.el would then need to implement some compatibility features itself: It uses the new format-prompt, for example, which can be easily covered. It also uses backtrace.el, which doesn't exist in Emacs 26. backtrace.el, in turn, needs lisp-el-font-lock-keywords-for-backtraces, which has been added to lisp-mode.el (in the same commit e09120d6 where backtrace.el was created). I didn't dig any further, but I guess there's some effort to unravel all of this. Maybe it would make sense to _start_ this as a long-term goal right now, working for versions 28 and beyond? That would make ert-backport.el a temporary workaround, to be eliminated as soon as versions below 28 go out of scope. --=20 Cheers, haj