From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Always-true predicate? 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In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 20 Feb 2021 09:03:00 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265311 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > `ignore` is interactive because it's handy for key-bindings where you > want a given key sequence to be silently thrown away (as opposed to > using nil which leaves other maps to decide what to do, and `undefined` > which prevents other maps from giving it a meaning). > It might even have been the original motivation for the `ignore` function. Right. It popped up a few minutes ago for me in `eww-mode-map' (see latest message in the "Current mode command discovery" thread)... I wonder whether we should have a different convenient way to do this, because keys that silently do nothing doesn't seem ideal? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no