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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273964 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> - Under "Incompatible Editing Changes" we have several items relating >> to specialized modes (f90-mode, nroff-mode, vc, project). Do these >> entries belong under "Specialized Modes and Packages"? > > Uhm... I think it makes sense to have the incompatible stuff in one > section? It makes it easy for people who only want to know what might > have broken in their code. > I think this is an important one. My 'use case' for looking in NEWS is 1. See what has changed and may require that I review/update my configuration. I might read this before upgrading or immediately after. Being able to identify a specific section which alerts me to incompatible changes is important. 2. When I find something not working after an upgrade, I will look to see if some change may have occurred. For this use case, I tend to use C-s and search for specific keywords rather than general reading of the file. Anything which would help in this regard would be useful.