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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275227 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I think this uncleanliness is a bit risky. Better put the definitions >> in their own namespace. I don't think "transparent compatibility" is >> worth the trouble here, and I don't think `s`, `f`, ... solve the >> same problem. > > Can symbol-renaming help here, perhaps? I believe Jo=C3=A3o is trying to > get it ready in time for Emacs 28. Confirmed. I am working on the documentation and hope to provide "hygienic", drop-in versions of those very `s.el`, `f.el` libraries. I agree with Stefan that those libraries don't seem to be solving the same problem of forward-compatibility, though (at least how I've understood it, which may very well be "not at all"). Jo=C3=A3o