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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275570 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > But consider that most current variables matching "^read-" has something > to do something to do with reading input from the user, IOW more with > e.g. "read-key" than "read". That is reasonable. How about `symbol-shorthands', or `reader-shorthands'? Or, as it is a file-local variable, simply `file-shorthands'? Or even just `shorthands'? Thanks. > Also, unlike "read-shorthands", "elisp-shorthands" immediately tells > even the most casual reader that this has something to do with ELisp. Yes, but when I see a variable prefixed with "elisp-", I assume it is related to Emacs Lisp editing support.