From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:46:32 +0800 Message-ID: <87mtkjsevb.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <877dbpvsee.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee5wutyr.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6gjhcc0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgojskna.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y243pouk.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v8z7sgsy.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tuerpm20.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18115"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 14:47:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZJ3-0004Vr-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:47:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZJ2-0001if-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:47:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZHx-0000h6-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic308-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.31]:46692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZHv-00054k-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:46:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640785602; bh=J9dFpI8t59GHAJqPPUf/mXoizm6uG7LP2lEZ2L6hDik=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=YdBdzgBVPfoGclmpkDvT8dHO3lKwUrMxMxB4EG+kh2PzYexJENj7uqcwVe03aufo3R9TQLvX6Vw06Sle3zpm5aZ7QDGuGtL6+DtkEbZs8c4nSgWwHjPTfuPG6VeKQgjr3IUlFg2F1csTkBSdTqbmMKYg+JXJtIE34jJr/Vi54ObseJ/8rULs/iQ8nIF3PdWAQIJkjYs6Kohbd5hL5Ba156q+VBBlMaoR5UHkMagAf54fd0fLbsuMYuVxgQ4osms+MLNoX2rxF5XhMHv7bPNC/pcyzPQ01msy2b6VHs3QP48wCzzZvsjcTpzXtvmG6kEi89zkhDn7I8Fy81yVtMhcEg== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640785602; bh=AgmcHV3flNLB/FCvOwQfhN3nhNg9DU7OYeQaOk3HB5M=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=n5QZPeRR6s5fGfKTC4H7tK+03KzhBVEzm17oR0Aohg+cjhyiS/z0eHMeRgmWHad4uhDc7tEkvOEqZLcOP4V+ii6/W0jgoMyS7moX0RMUmvQrEfNVwa5T6Tvia1cxmSX3FAHwgD8RHiyTDimrpEvZ8jcsGy6noA9iTlbFacLfmyy5UF631KJdWSq99RP1XRPDHO5sH9stWcav6l75212PRvlbg/MxYekh0dZ4nAVzEDMkEAk8HrmJExd5CE84Kq3lqiWE75Ig7kXzlTY1kzxiKx2i4rKF3rj6u5rJ6ygM7VFRSnkjBXARFOS0Bs3Z3IWhsx3Z/fJgbajcV265+52VRg== X-YMail-OSG: QxUMJ4MVM1mZGP115nFHtkXKHjOTBMHRiIWvGfVmmuT.um4WSMX2M2TwUXqJ9GP 270_REQH376g.LwYnDVO0NjhwGG1_7nGf_kWvONekSzMUxGu2AfkUen3Ws3xzBTlc6mcJ0C4Talw efa6oppeF6lmaoWg7H5b8NihPe2Ojj9cB0vD8Ld5QMPPkJVwJjT0RlJvh0VUyJPpzE9C8tQkDAXn IDtltvrGPITDEmuJUFzQSUImGbvn6Q_9efShWaOh5oKpxLbSoO63MzdRCrHcT23aRXO9MEU1Ahkt Gh9F97z6Rgo6ree3K7HUq268t50TqA3Am.NFBu_Xq0sKvv7jmxcTuqOIP3TedS038nDpESg4MMjn znLEGXHoffT.Zj_bYfN6lptak6zs9.otgymcnYiNlR.YML8sS7eXNva2H.b7vINKVhGI8jYcJGam 5.2avtGOe50_O6d5Q_sHHcXEXiBz4v8PVl3xAuW.hMG.Hlo0qKpGUFTuMOHQPekDyWh5VsnLOaTI R5OV1F1nON1LD674is1mz.W_E8rpHN7S8j2q4E31_A4DX9ptvYb2sQLVMbucvJova66rzme1N54W HPlFGZ4Mi6zcmHdM8JA9So4EUbGl35ST9XYZ9MRGDvopCWBonNbgJqmvYDObQgotICfsNPwss4i7 sEWSwFROgWuak50mYby6mPWRtiRrQvfBBNDH5vkZZ5y3W3jrwWB_WDVVFYu4EDnRAiV94Dps0JM9 pEQWOERxR45dgRBkatVKXLEOt8p5DVw7lO2lJAoJnsCjAXzpwu5YXOwClyMBzMxA.JWh9gDE_ACS v5mGzYrYjuhdg..jpN0.B29Z1gctEyJ4O2ZL07dd3. X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:46:42 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode509.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 98dda04ad46b83bd71384623defab39e; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:46:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87tuerpm20.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:39:35 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic308-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283559 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > Maybe that hints at an usability problem? No, it probably hints that nobody finds it neccessary to make use of. > Sadly, no. If I submit a bug and get responses to the original report > from Alice and Bob, then I answer Alice's message, Bob wont see it > unless I add his address to the CC list on my message to Alice. Okay, but how is that a problem? Everyone knows to click "Reply All", which is present even in webmail, and if someone doesn't, he usually remembers after being asked once. > Well, just to name an example, bugzilla which is both popular and > ancient, hardly needs any instructions to do those trivial things. With Bugzilla, you typically have to read the user guide and several pieces of project-specific documentation documenting their conventions before you can do something as "trivial" as report a bug. > The mentioned guix debbugs frontend doesn't allow that either. It does, just not the Guix instance. > You can attach cat pics too :-) The hard part is not attaching patches, > the hard part is to recognize and handle them so they are automatically > available to the related tools (conflict detection, quick merge, run > C.I. on the patch, etc.) Why would anyone want to run CI on a patch sent from an arbitrary source? That seems prone to abuse, and also a waste of electricity. Detecting conflicts should be trivial, but I don't understand what you refer to by "quick merge".