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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285219 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Phillip Lord >> Cc: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, corwin@bru.st, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:40:10 +0000 >> >> Because there is no i686 any more. You could install them both >> together. > > In the "official" binaries, there's no i686, because MinGW64 basically > tossed support for that. But mingw.org's MinGW still supports it, so > a user could theoretically build such an Emacs, or ask someone else to > build it, and then install it alongside the 64-bit one. > > And then there could be a Cygwin build, which will be installed into a > separate subdirectory of libexec, even though it's a 64-bit build. > > So I think there's a good reason to keep the architecture > subdirectory. If there were such a thing, my guess is that they would install it somewhere entirely different. But it adds no complexity, so I am easy either way. >> The zip file doesn't bring any expectations. It just unpacks where >> every >> you want it, and doesn't install any short cuts. You get the same >> Emacs >> but all the directories are clearly different. In that sense, the >> zip >> file is equivalent to a portable app. The installer version is >> not. The >> latter is what most people would be expecting. > > I provided my opinions, but since I'm not the one who will do the > work, feel free to disregard them. Likewise! I think we have had a good discussion of the pros and cons. The final decision can rest with Dieter and Corwin. Phil