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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 690a5f717c939f7857441774bc2dd49e; Fri, 13 May 2022 13:47:00 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 13 May 2022 15:29:39 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20188 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289735 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > No, I don't think we care about that. We have been routinely removing > such compat code all over the place for several years now. Don't we have lots of compat code in things like CC Mode which continue to work in XEmacs? The last time I checked, CC Mode does work, but that was before it was converted to lexical binding. > IMHO, any XEmacs/SXEmacs users out there should consider using Emacs instead. > > See also: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-10/msg01211.html > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-10/msg01294.html I think the conclusion there was to let people working on the file decide whether or not to keep support for XEmacs. So the question is probably where those people are for pascal.el, and what they think.