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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297724 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:56:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> + An alternative to using non-@acronym{ASCII} characters directly is >> +to use one of the character escape syntaxes described in >> +@pxref{General Escape Syntax,,, elisp, The Emacs Lisp Reference >> +Manual}, as they allow all Unicode codepoints to be specified using >> +only @acronym{ASCII} characters. Eli> IMO, if we think this alternative needs to be described in the Ema= cs Eli> manual, we should describe it, not cross-link to the ELisp manual. Eli> References to ELisp are only justified when they refer to Lisp cod= e or Eli> details of some functions or variables, not to user commands. Hmm, so move or copy "General Escape Syntax" under (emacs)International somewhere, and refer to it from the "You can insert non-ASCII characters or search for them" section of that node (since that=CA=BCs where we talk about C-x 8)? Robert --=20