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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299022 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Philip Kaludercic [2022-11-02 08:01:55] wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>>>> So why doesn't vc.el just do this too? >>>> `vc.el` has to work with an existing local clone, whereas for >>>> `package-vc` we could choose to impose a particular local VCS tool >>>> because we're in control of the creation of the local clone. >> That would break the command `package-vc-link-directory', that re-uses a >> local clone by linking it into the package directory. > > So what? Until now this command has failed in all contexts because it > didn't exist. :-) ^^ I am not sure I follow what you mean? > And I suspect it will still fail in many cases because it will depend on > the extent of VC coverage for any given VCS. > Will it work DaRCS (which does have a VC backend, tho not included in > Emacs) or Pijul? I haven't tried it, but I do believe it should work, because the only critical new VC function is `vc-clone' that isn't used by `package-vc-link-directory'. > > Stefan