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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303233 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 13/02/2023 21:24, Jean Louis wrote: >> But Eli said something important, why go somewhere back randomly, but >> better going where user marked it to need it. > > Because by the time the user knows they need to go back, they might > have missed the opportunity to mark the place. That=E2=80=99s why I like dumb-jump-back so much. dumb-jump / xref is a cross-file command. C-M-g gets me to another file. C-M-p gets me back where I jumped off. A command that jumps into some other file like go-to-reference or go-to-definition is a natural recording point. After jumping multiple times I have a linked list of jump-locations to which I can jump back in order. As a model that works much better than plain movement recording in IntelliJ and also somewhat better than edit-locations. (though edit locations could still be useful =E2=80=94 but changing the buffer when going back through edits can blur the sense which file I=E2=80=99m in at the mome= nt) If I switch buffers with switch-buffer, I know where I came from. If I switch with a command, I am likely to quickly jump through multiple files. So those jump-to-other-file commands are natural recording points. When I run xref, this is the point in a file where I=E2=80=99m likely to wa= nt to return to. 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