From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Indentation and gc Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 10:28:22 +0000 Message-ID: <87mt4eqpfd.fsf@localhost> References: <20230310110747.4hytasakomvdyf7i.ref@Ergus> <87ttys4dge.fsf@web.de> <83sfebyepp.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttyru4zt.fsf@web.de> <83fsabyb41.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt4jtpqf.fsf@web.de> <83ilf7wi48.fsf@gnu.org> <878rg3wh2f.fsf@localhost> <83cz5fwggd.fsf@gnu.org> <871qlvwg1s.fsf@localhost> <83a60jwf9l.fsf@gnu.org> <871qluuk3y.fsf@localhost> <831qluuj7e.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8j6t3i9.fsf@localhost> <83v8j6t2ib.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg8gbsch.fsf@localhost> <838rg0u0fd.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn3ky7rz.fsf@localhost> <831qlstwoi.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0tsy1c4.fsf@localhost> <83wn3jseyt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: arne_bab@web.de, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 15 11:26:54 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pcOLN-000AQZ-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 11:26:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pcOL5-00017d-Mc; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:26:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pcOL3-00013f-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:26:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pcOL1-0004wc-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0812404C9 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 11:26:29 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1678875990; bh=Znj3KpyyKFJE9oG7W/hW3J6Bu5lGAzyFlLQvPqvP318=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=m0KCZJfcmMcgrzM782s7SiMnrDxVxxhPlpLodblqkou27d1SGbLhcgZ0lJIQfyi4t nIGNbQ8cf5fkMe25CC3RMAKDn48X5Dj3fWmTWmEZqyHYIgYyC/yc6Cpe3F5VaLSsvt LkaXMegoQs0hmTCyzmdlaoVKwWjxZ3olUVUABJzK16CGF4pik/gRcZfhkAYGlXQagD UjZhZGb1qixak5wbsIN9U44NfnKALHwhIBI1bJlPabIRekdWnlZMaSkY0mfU8zmA64 DRJKYtthF8q7Q29l7MGtnJ6Sst/GLP0tRP5Y/RuUxo5xYqpQiN18bnIOXq6Jm3JQAl BQGR4oB0RkQHQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Pc64j0hScz9rxK; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 11:26:27 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83wn3jseyt.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304488 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Moreover, VIRT can exceed Memory + Swap combined. > > Yes, because VIRT includes the "reserved" memory, which is memory not > yet in-use, but which the application "reserved" for itself and > generally intends to use at some point, and so it cannot be used by > other processes. See > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2440434/whats-the-difference-between-reserved-and-committed-memory > https://www.baeldung.com/linux/resident-set-vs-virtual-memory-size Then, from what I can read, it does not look like VIRT truly represents how much memory Emacs is going to use. It is safe to assume that only a fraction of VIRT will be used in practice. That said, we can probably rely on relative changes in VIRT data, if it is recorded. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at