From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The poor quality of Emacs's backtraces Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:54:36 +0000 Message-ID: <87mszt305f.fsf@localhost> References: <3D901B62-4826-4783-B684-968E6890E75A@gmail.com> <6CB5E709-8F5A-4015-9F2C-337A87916C66@gmail.com> <909FC7C1-5473-4746-97E4-B067E6C2B271@gmail.com> <5382C438-D871-4C79-820C-DCA17C59CBCA@gmail.com> <87wmyy2u79.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28210"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= , emacs-devel To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 18 13:55:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qLjIX-00076Z-9r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:55:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qLjHo-0003px-Ik; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:54:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qLjHn-0003pl-JJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qLjHl-000791-2F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DE99240104 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:54:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689681271; bh=/7sIZtX661xffzV/5MLd5ZMBIBgcAFgFHUYmKpFX/bE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=lzOxR53uCKLQCchUaK4sHiixa/g05H4C+bVt/+YWeqnHPTnfh43bsUf5jkksuB3PK rTU5hMGZddrlF9PqNey5JCqWV2xOA6dmNIiA6EhKSNHpBF26xpctibCqOFXY4cmYIE 0AO5nMAE7x9WrJ7j39SOUfAKReoLy3R5YqD+KiEA/dg83Ui9RNVrQhi35Xr1HW/3rD b8EqCPHAek8cpgD+JwRBUfEyO1GgIfd5xxruWQOr+OUrsINeT3dhC4lb8OWY+AJxgc IDaJdPTXLXA7XXR4bIZKJqaIIfIMO6GKHqhPc0Su7rqNAX7u49QvijnIcMBau7BRls lKyl9St4PpT0w== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R4y6Z2HWwz6twk; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:54:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307951 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: >> This is curious. I tried to branch and got several native-comp errors: > > Thanks for actually trying this out! > > One thing I forgot to say: you need to run make bootstrap, since the > format of some internal structures is being changed. If you didn't do > this, please try it. If you did run make bootstrap, please let me know, > then I will take a closer look at your backtraces. Thanks! I did. Now, to be sure, I also did make extraclean; ./autogen...; ./configure...; make boostrap And then also removed eln-cache dir. Things changed somewhat: In toplevel form: eval-sexp-fu.el:121:2: Warning: Package cl is deprecated eval-sexp-fu.el:145:2: Warning: custom-declare-variable `eval-sexp-fu-flash-error-face' docstring wider than 80 characters /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/eval-sexp-fu/eval-sexp-fu.el: Error: Wrong type argument listp /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/helm-dash/helm-dash.el: Error: Wrong type argument listp No backtrace this time. Not sure if it is related to the branch. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at