From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 11:09:54 +0000 Message-ID: <87mslaytml.fsf@localhost> References: <87bk20yoya.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86zfpjirkg.fsf@gnu.org> <877ccnj9dp.fsf@localhost> <86bk1zhrf5.fsf@gnu.org> <874j7qkj97.fsf@localhost> <87y152x5v8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0aui7ay.fsf@localhost> <8634nahu9u.fsf@gnu.org> <87bk1xima6.fsf@localhost> <86jzgkheij.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28242"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 18 13:09:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sfdn4-0007B4-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:09:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfdmP-0004lE-4U; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 07:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfdmJ-0004ks-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 07:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfdmH-0004pF-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 07:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D10B240101 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:08:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1723979331; bh=9T1K0fdA7u6503Pt4Fjy12Y+kwcyam1GfDy5nXfNuAk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=S7B50rSfa2voJG2yWvT5aYqMwr/jk20J24eqmT35OJoLrY55CTLM8sqJPgxBrX3Te Ai9A/2Wi/44g5u51k4Aw0JuAD0W3jtd6MnH9EBHOOUY68RhaUGVoLP5FUcAkaoCqLT gys8Yi51ffS24oohdPO+rQiO+OUztl5WHwznHQj57wavi90n+s5JSBYaGz975QT3rt jhhAbYLrXDoXuFxt2E/9KwjPJULe5drgx1URHmKGxdB4CcXu1VKT27rVTw26nZnaNf HKlIPhMexyzzrxhVtpEF4JT2NKXMZNFsoYoeLtw53PSnK5iY1H4srlnlg4BWabCDt3 Kr1BoI82OFKPg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WmtJf1QTSz6tw8; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:08:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <86jzgkheij.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322883 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The interested students will likely also be at least casual Emacs users. >> So, some degree of familiarity is expected. > > User-level familiarity doesn't help in these matters, IME. >> Other than that, how is Emacs dramatically different from working with >> any other large codebase? > > In a nutshell, Emacs is much larger than most other projects, and its > features are much less localized than those of other large projects. But not every feature, right? Some parts are easier to hack than others. I imagine that many Elisp parts are somewhat easier compared to C code. >> What is needed is a formulation of projects/features that are desired. >> Mentors do not have to be maintainers. Experienced Emacs contributors >> can be the mentors (also, mentoring a student can be a good addition to >> some types of CVs). > > We have etc/TODO which could be used as a source of ideas. Are there any specific todo items there that you view as more suitable for people with limited experience in Emacs codebase? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at