From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: minibuffer vs dialog-boxes Date: 20 Apr 2002 21:07:28 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87lmbipo8v.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <9003-Sat20Apr2002144859+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019304566 5540 127.0.0.1 (20 Apr 2002 12:09:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Pavel@Janik.cz, monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16ytgD-0001RF-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:09:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yu03-00053f-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:29:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16ytg1-0007b9-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:09:13 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp02.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.132]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yteS-0007Tk-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:07:36 -0400 Original-Received: from tc-2-248.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.248] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp02.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 16yteP-0000e3-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:07:34 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CDD2307E; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:07:28 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <9003-Sat20Apr2002144859+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> Original-Lines: 24 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2833 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2833 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > > Some days ago I proposed changing the background color of the whole > > minibuffer. Minibuffer-prompt-face is not enough I think. Prompt can be > > short (like I-search:) and thus it is not enough to get user' attention. > > Note the ``ingenious'' part: we could do something with the face that > it will draw the attention immediately. I think the problem is that you have to do it without making the minibuffer prompt so annoying that it's unpleasant to use -- and I suspect it may be hard to draw attention to a small string at the bottom of the screen _without_ being annoying. Doing something like drawing a bold box around the whole minibuffer window, on the other hand, would be much more noticable, because (1) it would cover a much wider area, typically, and (2) because the change wouldn't be part of the minibuffer text, you could use a more noticable effect without drawing attention away from the user's entered text (which, remember, was a problem with using things like `bold' for the minibuffer prompt face). -Miles -- I have seen the enemy, and he is us. -- Pogo