From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improvements to `(emacs)File Variables' Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: <87lld40xve.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <878y942l8h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <20041114232600.GA12968@fencepost> <87r7mw0zik.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <20041114235558.GA18975@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100477940 759 80.91.229.6 (15 Nov 2004 00:19:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Krahnke , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 15 01:18:47 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CTUZz-0007xl-00 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 01:18:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CTUif-00081D-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:27:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CTUiX-000817-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:27:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CTUiX-00080v-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:27:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CTUiX-00080s-8V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:27:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.25] (helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CTUZb-0007Cq-AE; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:18:23 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([70.48.82.50]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041115001822.IBCD2026.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:18:22 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 854412FD26; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:18:22 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20041114235558.GA18975@fencepost> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:55:58 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29849 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29849 >> > I think we should make the whole _concept_ of "unibyte" deprecated... >> >> At the user-level, yes that was pretty much my understanding as well, which >> is why the unibyte:t marker should be considered obsolete. >> >> At the elisp level, unibyte strings and buffers are still very handy >> to manipulate undecoded data (such as when talking to an NNTP server). >> I don't see any reason why this should ever be deprecated. > I think the lisp/C level are a complete mess also, but it's probably too > painful and too much work to fix it. But are you still talking about the *concept* of unibyte, then? Stefan