From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>, rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize"
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:04:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lla8xdps.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FDELKNEBLPKKDCEBEJCBKEINCLAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:58:05 -0800")
> Was this unclear:
> If you .emacs, or some third party code you
> activate from ".emacs", contains "(setq foo 42)" and you change and
> save "foo" from customize, you changes to the variable through
> customize will be overwritten next time you start Emacs.
It's crystal clear to me, but let me try to rephrase it, to see if it helps
other people:
- Let's imagine user Helen has had a (setq-default fill-column 42) in her
.emacs (or maybe it's in some package that she doesn't even remember
she's loading from a .emacs).
- Now let's imagine that Helen notices that her fill-column is too small
and she wants to set it to something else, like 70.
- She does M-x customize-variable RET fill-column RET, then changes the
value, then saves.
- When she restarts, fill-column is 42 again.
- Since she's not arrogant, she figures she must have made a mistake so
she goes through the customize-variable thingy again.
- When she restarts, fill-column is still stuck at 42.
- Then comes M-x report-emacs-bug.
Of course the above problem will only happen if the (setq-default
fill-column 42) happens to be executed after Helen's custom-set-variables
(e.g. in a mode-hook or in one of the many poorly written major modes that
happily mess up global variables).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-01 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-26 0:03 Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 13:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 14:32 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 18:58 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-02-01 20:38 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:44 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 23:52 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-01 21:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-01 21:35 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 22:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 22:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02 1:03 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02 1:34 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 2:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02 2:51 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 6:40 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 22:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 22:40 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 7:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-05 5:27 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 16:54 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 22:40 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02 7:57 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-02 18:33 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 21:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02 22:11 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 22:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-02 22:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:14 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-04 7:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:12 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 19:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 20:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-05 5:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 20:53 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 22:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 22:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04 1:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04 1:31 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04 3:16 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 21:10 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-03 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 6:41 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 15:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:48 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 15:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02 7:40 ` Per Abrahamsen
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