From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding missing copyright years Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:02:21 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87ll63t15e.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: <200505050128.KAA09924@etlken.m17n.org> <200505062342.IAA19054@etlken.m17n.org> <17022.33190.477016.139563@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117059427 1987 80.91.229.2 (25 May 2005 22:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 26 00:17:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Db4Ae-0007u9-Bp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Db4Ea-0000Tc-Sq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:20:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Db4DI-0000Bu-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Db4DC-00008f-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Db4DB-0008WM-Te for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Db42y-0007ZF-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Db3xv-0006K8-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:03:03 +0200 Original-Received: from h-68-166-188-180.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.166.188.180]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:03:03 +0200 Original-Received: from wohler by h-68-166-188-180.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 00:03:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 48 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-68-166-188-180.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3mW0qoztyGNKlW3VrYiBJkx+go8= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37645 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37645 Richard Stallman writes: > what the problem is if the copyright includes years for which the there > are no copyrightable changes. > > We would in some sense be making a false statement, and that might > be embarrassing some day. We should try our best to avoid inaccuracy. I just detected two types of errors in the recent copyright modifications by Thien-Thi Nguyen in the MH-E source as Kim Storm also observed. The first is that 2005 was added to *all* of the files although many of the files have not been touched this year. The second is that several years were removed. In one particularly bad case, 2004 was removed and 2005 was added even though there hadn't been any changes in 2005 at all, let alone changes to obsolete the 2004 changes. Note that MH-E package, like Gnus, has its own, more frequent, releases. Authors of automatic copyright updates should keep this in mind. In the next day or two I'll be checking in a new version of MH-E after merging recent changes from the Emacs repository into it. I'll also correct these copyright problems as well as compilation warnings that were recently introduced. As usual, I'll let you know when that occurs. Finally, to my knowledge, the copyright "bible" for the Free Software Foundation is at: http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.html In addition, Richard has told me that multi-line copyrights are OK, and you can use two-digit years as long as they are bracketed by matching four digit years (for example, 1996, 97, 98, 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 2003). It would be useful if the maintainer of the above document could add this information, plus any additional information generated by this thread. My gut feel is that attempting to remove copyright years is going to create far more problems then it solves. Let's let the sleeping dog lie. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.