From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87lkep3ear.fsf@neutrino.caeruleus.net> References: <466D8F06.6010906@gnu.org> <466DA866.4080907@gnu.org> <466E348A.3070207@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181627887 10354 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2007 05:58:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sam Steingold , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 07:58:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HxzOG-0003DH-T7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:58:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxzOG-0003cT-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxzOD-0003cM-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxzOB-0003c9-Ju for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxzOB-0003c6-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HxzOA-0002dV-1i; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.165.18.95] (helo=neutrino.caeruleus.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1HxzO234Hi-0008HK; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:57:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <466E348A.3070207@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:52:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+rbcbcn9X6mqS0etfte6GA15PhcIkz0jgXnxD B5L+qRQIUQ7Kpe2/UMSac65pcvflYcfZ2ZeasLOLXz3E73K63N 50Zis/73gQQqUhkLtg+ig== X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72664 Archived-At: * Jan Djärv (2007-06-12) writes: > Depends on your definition of right. The purpose is to be able to use the > scrollbar to get the last line to the top of the window. Gedit can't do that. > This is an Emacs convention, but as said, hard to implement right with > current toolkits. > > But AFAIK, only Emacs does this so most users are surprised. Maybe we should > make this customizable. Word does it as well, in Normal mode. -- Ralf