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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
To: "grischka" <grishka@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:20:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lkemki35.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002201c7ae61$5d13fc00$d10990d4@j4f3n1> (grischka's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 10\:52\:33 +0200")

() "grischka" <grishka@gmx.de>
() Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:52:33 +0200

   Cheap propaganda. The truth is that current emacs' idea of
   scrolling is just too simple minded than that it could drive a
   standard scrollbar correctly.

perhaps if you change the first "." to a ":", you will have a point.

   Only that the limitations which you complain are part of the
   means by which the metaphor is created in the first place.

i think the point is that a different metaphor pleases other
people.  if the mechanisms that support your preferred metaphor
cannot support another, that is a deficiency in the generality of
those mechanisms.

"but they were not designed to be general."

art of design is finding balance between undesired (maintenance
burden) and desired (customizable) generality.  it is ok to be
artistically deficient (most of us are so by default!), but there
is no escaping the art critics -- they are everywhere.

thi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-14  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-14  8:52 gtk scroll bar deficiency grischka
2007-06-14  9:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2007-06-14 11:56   ` grischka
2007-06-14 17:21   ` grischka
2007-06-14 18:22     ` David Reitter
2007-06-14 20:30       ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-15 11:41       ` grischka
2007-06-15 14:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-18 13:32           ` grischka
2007-06-14 19:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 11:46       ` grischka
2007-06-15 14:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 15:56           ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-15 18:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 18:58               ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-14  9:24 ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-11 18:05 Sam Steingold
2007-06-11 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-11 19:54   ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-11 21:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12  5:52     ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12  5:57       ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12  6:06         ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12  6:12           ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12  7:40             ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-15 20:51               ` Ralf Angeli
2007-06-12 11:09         ` David Reitter
2007-06-12  8:49       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-12  9:10         ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-12 13:04       ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-12 13:11         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-12 13:19           ` Sam Steingold
2007-06-12 15:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 22:38     ` Davis Herring

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