From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:21:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87lkb0ouph.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wctziwv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <87ejgt9w2a.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190391728 25607 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2007 16:22:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:22:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 21 18:21:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYlGO-0005jO-AK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:21:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYlGM-0005Pw-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYlGC-0005KI-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:21:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYlG7-0005Gn-UR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:21:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYlG7-0005Gh-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:21:39 -0400 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IYlG7-0005Zi-9g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:21:39 -0400 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so788689nfh for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=qcMjquWoTb4wAqxLrltQi41WPG1XzfvKrFHZHSQ2SgY=; b=kvriXpPYprdacUuqbb0hWLDLso2jEEC/OX5qzGMhfdADqcCHQuuaC9clmhnuqMl7XAzgve1khvEMRylXXoA3RLn/W7TdlJjP9sRUO0jgqFycpDvaCTfsaURhs8Z3BftJMnRJ9yJOqff64mDbNjJfVE4eeQ1Z/Vd5AHCBwdaGveI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=QD93VUXhnmJHTbeSeeZ1/rNk/W14MidGLozDeZl4tGuuPntx2OpL4/kc+qb023A5No7La/Qhkc1UAo5AcxMFLCgerTJkI/X2pEYVqUtn1BJTpBTQaKhPg9pErzF/b4OzgokQE1bs92/NaEJ+uO/qOU0v8ZhhL2TB5FNzBBmNDjg= Original-Received: by 10.78.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr1137577hue.1190391695179; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [129.199.12.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm764917huc.2007.09.21.09.21.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D421157998; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:21:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87ejgt9w2a.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:49:01 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79458 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > We could also consider having *several messages*, each of them being > displayed for a few seconds (say 2). > > It is the best trade-off I can think of: > > - it lets Emacs display a file when given as an argument; > - it lets Emacs display *all* the information you want; > - it catches the attention of the new users more efficiently. Does anyone here agree that *several* echo-area messages, persistently displayed one by one at a small time interval, would catch beginners attention more efficiently than the current static buffer solution ? -- Bastien