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From: michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac)
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: suggestion for set-file-modes
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:14:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lk5k30cz.fsf@cadilhac.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ir0oscs1.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:27:14 +0200")

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Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

>>> This is very nice, but why you don't accept this string in the same format
>>> allowing the user to enter it in the minibuffer (i.e. why you didn't
>>> implement `file-modes-ls-to-number')?
>>
>> Well, I've never seen anyone (or any tool) using that notation to *set*
>> file modes.  Yes, it will allow Emacs to tend to more completeness, but
>> I think Emacs goal lays more in usefulness.
>>
>> Do you have any practical case in which that notation could be more
>> natural?
>
> Wdired mode allows editing such file permissions in the dired buffer
> (when `wdired-allow-to-change-permissions' is non-nil), so it would be

(BTW thanks, looking at this variable allowed me to remove all
references to `dired-chmod-program'.)

> natural to allow entering file permission in the same notation in
> the minibuffer.

I still don't think really so ; the rational for Wdired to permit that
is that the bits are *toggled*, not arbitrary set.

> There already exists a function that converts that notation to the
> number: `wdired-perms-to-number'.

For instance, that function doesn't check for error (it should,
however).  The so-said `advanced' mode is only useful for mass chmod-ing
(using replace-string and like), which is not the purpose of
`read-file-modes'.

I'd really prefer not to have two symbolic notations in here.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-17  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200801201812.m0KICxYl009632@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>
     [not found] ` <871w7jqiic.fsf@cadilhac.name>
     [not found]   ` <200802112200.m1BM0pke028675@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>
2008-02-11 23:41     ` suggestion for set-file-modes Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-16 19:19       ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-16 23:07         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-16 23:27           ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17  0:14             ` Michaël Cadilhac [this message]
2008-02-17  0:48               ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17  1:08                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17  1:31                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17  2:04                     ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17  2:21                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 21:54                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:43                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17  1:39                 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 20:29                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-18  3:01                     ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 21:57                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 21:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 22:18                     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 22:59                       ` Juri Linkov

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