From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Woman path : adding l10n man pages Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:41:36 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87lk5jayf3.fsf@jurta.org> References: <20071231144731.6993df8e@girafe.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> <20080108151446.7bcd3769@girafe.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> <20080216210150.6d8429c3@girafe.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> <87bq6gscis.fsf@jurta.org> <1i63woh1u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k5l4pg9j.fsf@jurta.org> <877ih3gnqc.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203295463 5169 80.91.229.12 (18 Feb 2008 00:44:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?gb2312?B?RnKopmSopnJpYw==?= Perrin , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 18 01:44:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQu7i-0007gs-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:44:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQu7E-0006OF-6a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQu79-0006Ns-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQu77-0006N6-UT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQu77-0006N2-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:09 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQu73-00014I-AA; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JQu70-000IS5-UZ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:44:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:02:26 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 7b6940144bc5d56bdacd12344196c2df X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2248 [Feb 17 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89427 Archived-At: >> I think the best course of action in the long term is to add such >> a general locale variable that could be later used by other packages >> besides woman. > > OK, agreed. The usual stupid problem - what should it be called? There > is already system-messages-locale, which is set and used in ways I > don't understand, eg: > > LC_MESSAGES=en_US.iso88591 emacs -Q > -> system-messages-locale = nil As I see the current locale system in Emacs is quite a mess. I think we should carefully redesign it and also get rid of language environments that are in fact a redundant duplicate of the locale system. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/