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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Isearch in dired
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:59:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljvssrkb.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zlk90yjb.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:22:32 -0500")

> Although it's likely that the user wants to match the filename parts of
> the Dired buffer, there are two things to note:
>
>  (1) There is a significant probability that the user might want to
>      match the non-file parts.  For instance, the user may want to find
>      all files modified on a certain date.

Using isearch to find files with a certain date is not the easiest way
to accomplish this task, especially when the date format is not ISO.
There are better tools like M-( dired-mark-sexp and find-dired
with -mtime and -mmin options.  However, isearching dates and other parts
of a dired buffer will still be possible even with context-dependent
isearch - when point initially is not a file name.

>  (2) For most files, the chances of a filename search string matching
>      the non-file parts of the Dired buffer are very low.  Basically,
>      this happens only for corner cases, e.g. if the user wants to find
>      a file name "1".

The false matches also include owner and group names, month names in non-ISO
formats, and sometimes even file permissions.

> Given that, I don't think it's reasonable to change the behavior of key
> sequences like C-s from their defaults.
>
> However, one possibility is to define a standard "dwim search" key
> binding, and try to use that key binding everywhere we want a command
> that tries to guess where the user wants to search.  Then we can make a
> "dwim search" in Dired mean searching filenames.

Perhaps in this case it would be convenient to have one option that
enables a dwim search globally for all search types: file names in Dired,
function names in source code, etc.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-09 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-08  9:56 Isearch in dired Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-08 10:59 ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-08 11:33   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-08 12:23     ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-08 15:22       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-08 17:07       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-09  0:26   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09 21:57     ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-08 12:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-08 17:08   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-08 14:10 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-08 16:05   ` joakim
2008-11-08 17:27     ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-08 17:17   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-09  0:26   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-08 21:57 ` Lazy " Juri Linkov
2008-11-09 20:54   ` recursive-edit in Isearch Juri Linkov
2008-11-09 21:09   ` Occur in Word Isearch Juri Linkov
2008-11-13 15:29     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 15:30   ` Lazy Isearch in dired Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 15:32     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 16:30       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-13 17:07         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-09 14:22 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-09 15:08   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-09 17:59   ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-11-11 22:55     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-12  2:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-12 11:59         ` René Kyllingstad
2008-11-12 15:13           ` Drew Adams
2008-11-12 15:53         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-12  7:55       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-12 15:08         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 16:57           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-16 22:22             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-10  3:11   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-11 21:35     ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-08  3:05 propose: dired-isearch.el --- isearch in Dired William Xu
2007-08-08 18:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-08 22:54   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 20:34     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24  6:41       ` Mathias Dahl
2008-07-25  0:32         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 13:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 15:52         ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 17:20           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25  0:33         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-25  0:40           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-29 15:45           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:56             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-30 14:29               ` Juri Linkov

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