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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-n and C-a
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljsrb4hn.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqnv2xk5.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:45:02 +0200")

Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

> visual-line-mode is no less misleading - in addition to enabling visual
> motion commands it also enables word wrap mode.  And there is no way
> to enable visual motion commands without enabling warping text at
> word boundaries.
>
> These are two separate features amalgamated into one mode.
> I think we should provide a way to toggle them separately.

The features are logically separate, but in practice they are usually
useful only in combination.  When there are lots of wrapped lines, it's
natural to have commands like C-a and C-n act on visual lines.
Conversely, visual-line based commands are not terribly useful unless
the buffer has lots of long lines, and that's a pain to deal with unless
you enable word wrap.

Longlines-mode had an option to separate the word wrapping and line
motion behavior, but AFAIK no one ever used it.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-31 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-29 14:32 C-n and C-a Richard M Stallman
2009-01-29 15:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-29 16:09   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-01-29 17:15     ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-29 19:40   ` Adrian Robert
2009-01-30  0:32   ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  1:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-30  9:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-31 17:45       ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 19:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02  1:45           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 20:33         ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2009-02-02  1:47           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  7:25   ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-29 18:24 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29 18:48   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-01-29 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-30 16:07   ` Sascha Wilde
2009-01-31 20:34   ` Chong Yidong
2009-01-30  0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-30  6:12   ` mail
2009-01-31 17:45     ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-31 22:35       ` Drew Adams
2009-02-01 20:11         ` Leo
2009-02-03 15:11           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-02  1:54         ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-02  2:25           ` Drew Adams
2009-02-02  9:45             ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-06  0:45 ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-06 16:04   ` Chong Yidong
2009-02-08  0:48     ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-08 20:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-09 21:22         ` Christian Schlauer
2009-02-09 22:02         ` Drew Adams
2009-02-10  2:05           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-10  3:11             ` Drew Adams
2009-02-11 22:45         ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-12  2:01           ` Miles Bader
2009-02-12 10:05             ` Juri Linkov
2009-02-12 11:04               ` Miles Bader
2009-02-13  6:33                 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-02-07  1:52   ` Stefan Monnier

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