From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Kanis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.sources Subject: Re: nterm a vt100 emulator Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:29:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87ljj6zl8t.fsf@kanis.fr> References: <87d44osokv.fsf@kanis.fr> <87skdjrgqb.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256063538 21193 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2009 18:32:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Sources , emacs devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 20:32:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N0JV4-0003Im-Mt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:32:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N0JV4-0005mq-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N07IN-0000QA-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N07IK-0000PY-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43371 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N07IK-0000PV-JX; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from kanis.fr ([75.127.73.245]:1676) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N07IK-00021x-8q; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [89.83.137.164] (helo=zen) by kanis.fr with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N07ID-00036d-P0; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:29:57 -0400 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:10:57 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:31:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116269 gmane.emacs.sources:3309 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> term and terminal are not meant to be full emulation. term has >> a pager and line mode which nterm doesn't do. nterm doesn't track >> current directory like term does. > > That makes it sound like nterm is like term but with less features. > I'm sure there's an upside to it. Also, if you could explain how these > different design decisions affect the ability to fix the original cursor > bug, that would be great. The recorder takes a trace of characters received by the terminal. Someone can easily reproduce a bug by replaying the trace both on xterm and nterm. I don't think term has that feature. For now it's only a vt100 emulator, I think it can become a xterm emulator with a little bit of work. > Does it adapt to a window's size or does it have a fixed size > independent from the window where the buffer is displayed? It has a fixed size for now. -- Ivan Kanis http://kanis.fr Wisdom is oftentimes nearer when we stoop than when we soar. -- William Wordsworth