From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: POP3 UIDL - pop3-leave-mail-on-server (was: [PATCH] GnuTLS support on Woe32) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87lj0ne4og.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <87ipvwl1nx.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> <87hbbewr7o.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> <87ei6g0yph.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299747317 17950 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2011 08:55:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:55:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 09:55:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PxbeF-000689-Iq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:55:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PxbeF-0002zl-5f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:55:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42872 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pxbdz-0002u7-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:54:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxbdv-0000qs-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:54:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]:59626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxbdv-0000qV-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:54:47 -0500 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p2A8sgEb011498; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:54:42 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAC11090D; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:54:42 +0100 (CET) X-Face: 1; h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB; kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm; %Od (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:33:19 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-z.dcc-servers-Metrics: poseidon 1049; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 134.60.1.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137028 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77649 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 09 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > claudio.bley@gmail.com (Claudio Bley) writes: [...] >> It retrieves unique message IDs and is pretty vital in implementing >> leave-messages-on-server support for POP3 (which I require). > > I didn't know that was actually possible. Do many people use that? It has been requested quite often. See the comments around `pop3-leave-mail-on-server'... ,----[ gnus/lisp/pop3.el ] | (defcustom pop3-leave-mail-on-server nil | "*Non-nil if the mail is to be left on the POP server after fetching. | | If `pop3-leave-mail-on-server' is non-nil the mail is to be left | on the POP server after fetching. Note that POP servers maintain | no state information between sessions, so what the client | believes is there and what is actually there may not match up. | If they do not, then you may get duplicate mails or the whole | thing can fall apart and leave you with a corrupt mailbox." | ;; We can't use the UILD support from XEmacs mail-lib or cvs.m17n.org: | ;; http://thread.gmane.org/v9lld8fml4.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de | ;; http://thread.gmane.org/b9yy8hzy9ej.fsf@jpl.org | ;; Any volunteer to re-implement this? | :version "22.1" ;; Oort Gnus | :type 'boolean | :group 'pop3) `---- BTW, I don't know why you removed the corresponding warnings from `pop3-movemail' with this commit: ,----[ git log - gnus/lisp/pop3.el ] | commit 119a867afc587c9261730362a6478fc3801df1b5 | Author: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | Date: Thu Sep 9 16:06:38 2010 +0200 | | Remove pop3-movemail and rename pop3-streaming-movemail to pop3-movemail. `---- > And why not just use IMAP instead? Some mail providers don't offer IMAP (for free). > If it's a popular way to read email, I can certainly have a peek at > implementing an nnpop backend for Gnus... Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/