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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:55:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lj0eyq1x.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AANLkTikGH1rietzBWcyykvX=VPO=h=hfTB79dXLrX6+z@mail.gmail.com

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:22:10 -0400 Ben Key <bkey76@gmail.com> wrote: 

BK> For what it is worth I signed the necessary copyright assignment papers
BK> years ago.  I have been a member of the Emacs project since Wednesday,
BK> November 13, 2002.  If you go to the Emacs Project Memberlist page you will
BK> see me listed as Ben Key <bkey1>.  I simply have not been an active
BK> contributor to Emacs for the past several years.

Sorry Ben, I just checked the ChangeLogs.  I put you in the authors list
of user-load-dirs.el, which is attached below.  Please suggest any
changes you think are necessary.

BK> I do think it is important to trap errors though.  If you do not, and you
BK> call this new load directory function in your .emacs file, Emacs
BK> initialization will abort at the first error leaving your Emacs session half
BK> configured (any code positioned after the call to load directory will not
BK> run).  I do not think this is a good idea.  I do not feel very strongly
BK> about this though.

I think it's a valid way to do it, but the way I think of it (as a
logical extension to .emacs) errors should not be trapped.

I made it an option.

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:31:34 -0600 Evans Winner <ego111@gmail.com> wrote: 

EW> By the way, a version of `load-dir' that I sent Ben Key a
EW> week or so ago mostly/partly includes handling of gzipped
EW> libraries (or whatever is returned by `get-load-suffixes')
EW> which seemed a useful variation, though it occurs to me that
EW> I don't know if that is portable across platforms.

It seems to work OK and automatically filters out "." and ".." so it's a
good idea.  I added that to user-load-dirs.el as well.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:42:17 -0700 PJ Weisberg <pj@irregularexpressions.net> wrote: 

PW> I only saw Stefan say to go ahead with a load-directory function,

I know, but a package IMO will provide a better user experience because
of the number of possible options.  We already have recursive and
ignore-errors; I imagine the list will only grow.  Plus the loaded cache
in `user-load-dirs-loaded' is pretty crucial to avoid double-loading
files; remember Stephen Turnbull's concerns about installing hooks twice
for instance.  All of that is a pain to handle without a package.

PW> which I assumed would live in files.el next to load-file and look
PW> something like this:

PW> (defun load-directory (dir recursive)
PW>  "Load all Lisp files in DIR.  If RECURSIVE is non-nil,
PW> recursively call load-directory for all subdirectories of dir."
PW>  (interactive "DLoad Dir: \nP")
PW>  (dolist (file (directory-files dir t ".*\\.el$"))
PW>    ;; Cut off the .el so load will pick up the .elc version if it's there
PW>    (setq file (substring file 0 -3))
PW>    (load file))
PW>  (when recursive
PW>    (dolist (file (directory-files dir t))
PW>      (if (and (file-directory-p file)
PW>               (not (string-match "/\\.\\.?$" file)))
PW>          (load-directory file recursive)))))

PW> If I'm not mistaken that's about 90% of what you want, and makes using
PW> your own load-dir at least as easy as using your own custom-file.

I will use `file-name-sans-extension' instead of the substring to handle
all the possible values from `get-load-suffixes', but yeah I think using
the bare file name is better than explicitly loading it with the
extension.  Thanks for that (and I think both Ben and Evans had
something similar).

If `user-load-dirs-load' is autoloaded then it's just as easy to manage
at the user level as the `load-directory' function you suggest.

The library can be made into an ELPA package easily and thus used in
older Emacsen.  My goal, though, is to call `user-load-dirs-load' in the
Emacs startup, as I've mentioned.

Ted


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-17 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-17  4:22 user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ben Key
2011-03-17  6:31 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-17 10:55 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-03-17 20:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 21:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 21:05       ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-17 21:23         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 22:50           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-18  2:46             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 10:56               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-18 13:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18  2:21       ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-24  0:03 Ben Key
2011-03-24 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-26 11:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-02 18:35     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-04  9:54       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-19  4:10 Ben Key
2011-03-19 13:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 16:07   ` Ben Key
2011-03-19 14:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20  2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:05   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 15:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 20:33       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <AANLkTin1zXJQo2vsju7kpa31Nw568m_eNZS+gJ6g2tQO@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-08 18:49 ` Ben Key
2011-03-08 20:01   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 20:25     ` Chad Brown
2011-03-08 20:38       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 22:40         ` Chad Brown
2011-03-09  9:36           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-09 11:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 22:57     ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  3:28       ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  6:50         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  7:29           ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 16:00             ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 11:39           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:51       ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:08         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 20:18         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 20:32           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 11:30             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 14:27               ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 17:23                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 18:33                   ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 18:56                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 19:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-10 20:30                       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11  8:43                           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 19:36                     ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-11 15:00               ` chad
2011-03-11 17:41                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-12  5:51                   ` chad
2011-03-12 10:09                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-11 18:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 14:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 15:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:08                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  2:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  3:34                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  4:42                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-16 20:11               ` Evans Winner
2011-03-16 20:23                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  2:21         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08  7:14 Ben Key
2011-03-08  9:58 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-08 18:49   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-01 20:32 Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-03 21:07 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04  9:55   ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-04 17:18     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 18:04       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 18:37       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:35         ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 19:45           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:54             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 20:21               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 20:25               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:24                   ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:26               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:08             ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 20:24               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 21:33                   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:37                     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-05  3:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:11                       ` Chad Brown
2011-03-06  7:21                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-07 16:24                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 17:18                           ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:59                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:36                             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 18:30                               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-07 20:39                             ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-08  2:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 10:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 18:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 19:23                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-09  2:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-09 19:57                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 20:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 21:38                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  7:06                                       ` Jan D.
2011-03-09  7:17                                         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-03-09 10:01                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09 17:29                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 18:18                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:33                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 19:57                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  3:20                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10  5:01                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  7:08                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10 13:15                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-11  2:10                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:57                                         ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-10  7:08                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09  6:03                                   ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09  7:20                                     ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 23:44                                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08  0:47                           ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08 10:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  6:26                               ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09 11:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov

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