From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103850: update_autogen Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 13:16:17 +0900 Message-ID: <87lizlcr8u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4D9D45B3.8080502@cs.ucla.edu> <4D9E01BF.5070306@cs.ucla.edu> <4D9E6D1A.1000007@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302235860 18442 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2011 04:11:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 04:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 06:10:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8328-0006oP-Jv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:10:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46659 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8327-0001Gs-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46390 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8320-0001DR-1V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q831y-0000jC-ME for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:52593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q831y-0000iT-Cw; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB9B9706B1; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:10:44 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 796F41A27A8; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:16:17 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4D9E6D1A.1000007@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" eac2e6bd5b2c+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138302 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > But why not use the latest Autoconf version in the cron job? > I don't see the downside. People will depend on the cron job, and neologisms will creep in. That's not a downside for you, but it's a bad thing because it punishes the occasional developer, especially in the case of autotools which are famous for breaking backward compatibility and far too often require fragile workarounds depending on what should be internal implementation details. When the bright shiny things crowd starts complaining that it's way too hard to do what they want to do without the neologisms, that's when to think about bumping requirements of versions of tools you're not directly involved in developing, and using the new base requirement for automated production.