From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tabulated-list-init-header and glyphless-char-display Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:31:51 -0400 Message-ID: <87lizgto6g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <83mxk0u0g7.fsf@gnu.org> <874o68zjhi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83k4f4twam.fsf@gnu.org> <8762qnxm44.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83hba6rqtm.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxjyht7w.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83pqosra90.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqosg0ea.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83oc4cr7fe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcykaazw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83mxjwr3ki.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302571769 27076 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2011 01:29:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 12 03:29:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [140.186.70.17] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SPz-0002qa-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 03:29:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60416 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SPz-00053D-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:32783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SPm-0004JY-Vd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9PeG-0007Ly-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]:34937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9PeG-0007LP-68; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036014198.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.198]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p3BMVobu023816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 686CF160341; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:31:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83mxjwr3ki.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:27:41 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.147 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 140.186.70.17 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138401 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > So we are going to invent a new display feature, just to display 2 > fancy characters in a specialized mode buffer, and in a way that will > support simultaneous display in several different display types? Yep. > I'd say it's an overkill. Perhaps we should simply compromise and use > ASCII art, or no indication at all. I suspect there will be other situations where it's convenient to use unicode glyphs in Emacs buffers. If we can design a sufficiently flexible system, I think this is a good investment. For example, one could imagine a version of table.el that displays =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=AC=E2=94=80=E2=94=90 =E2=94=82a=E2=94=82b=E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=BC=E2=94=80=E2=94=A4 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=B4=E2=94=80=E2=94=98 on graphical terminals, using the Unicode box-drawing glyphs, and displays the equivalent ASCII borders on terminals that don't handle Unicode.