From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:29:54 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87liyofwxp.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87d3kal0za.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5mky4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762ptue8r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4e8ucw3.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304382920 31474 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2011 00:35:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 00:35:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 03 02:35:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3a5-00049c-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 02:35:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54616 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3a5-0005Y9-9D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 20:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3a3-0005Y4-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 20:35:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3Zz-0002ud-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 20:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:41584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3Zz-0002uF-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 20:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QH3Zx-000471-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 02:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 02:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 02:35:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:krxJKZAin/mUAEeNwoB84AmVlko= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139021 Archived-At: On Tue, 03 May 2011 01:36:47 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> There's no problem with specifying an unencrypted authinfo file for a >> specific server+port+user (or any subset) combination, see >> `auth-sources'. So the authinfo line would look like this: >> >> machine mysmtpserver.com login tzz password mypassword keyfile "~/.keyfile" certfile "~/.certfile" LMI> But if you do have a ~/.authinfo.gpg, then auth-source will be opening LMI> it just to check whether there are any mysmtpserver.com entries in LMI> it. Only once, then it's cached. Plus you can specify an unencrypted file at any point. I really don't think this is a big deal, no more than what happens for IMAP and NNTP. If you insist on avoiding this file check, we could have a "Lisp data" backend in addition to the file and Secrets backends. That would be pretty trivial to implement and would mirror the existing netrc parse results structurally. Ted