From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: File watch support in autorevert.el
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:01:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87libzn4qt.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8338y7vkyx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:43:34 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> > . It isn't clear to me that using IN_CLOSE_WRITE with inotify is TRT:
>> > AFAIU, that would mean we only revert a file when the application
>> > writing to it closes its descriptor. IOW, if the application makes
>> > several changes to the file during a prolonged operation, and
>> > doesn't close and reopen the file in between, we will only see the
>> > changes at the end, but not during the operation. Wouldn't it be
>> > better to use IN_MODIFY instead?
>>
>> For auto-revert-tail-mode, IN_CLOSE_WRITE is definitely insufficient
>> since the common use case is when we watch a log file, so the CLOSE may
>> never happen.
I can speak only for the inotify case. According to my tests,
IN_CLOSE_WRITE will always happen once a file has been written on the
filesystem. See for example (commands have been applied in different shells):
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
~$ echo xxx >>~/tmp/123
~$ inotifywait -mq ~/tmp/123
/home/albinmic/tmp/123 OPEN
/home/albinmic/tmp/123 MODIFY
/home/albinmic/tmp/123 CLOSE_WRITE,CLOSE
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Do you (Stefan?) have a use case where just IN_MODIFY has been fired,
w/o a corresponding IN_CLOSE_WRITE?
> I would suggest adding the 'size' filter as well, because Windows
> doesn't update the last write time on every write to a file, only
> after many writes. (It does similar filtering with updating the
> directory entry of the file, so 'size' alone will not do.)
Hmm, as said already I have almost no chance to test it under Windows ...
I would let this implementation to somebody else.
>> But at the same time, it's often preferable to wait a bit longer for the
>> application to finish writing the new version of the file. I think the
>> perfect behavior lies somewhere in-between: when we get an
>> IN_CLOSE_WRITE, we should revert immediately, but when we get an
>> IN_MODIFY we should revert "soon".
>
> You mean, with a timer?
The timer is still active. The file watch handler just marks buffers
where the related file has been changed. Revert happens when the timer
goes through the buffers markes via `auto-revert-active-p'. That sounds
like an acceptable compromise.
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-11 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-10 14:28 File watch support in autorevert.el Michael Albinus
2013-01-10 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-10 17:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-01-10 20:38 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 14:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 15:01 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2013-01-11 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 16:09 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 16:19 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 22:43 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 13:34 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 19:08 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-17 9:38 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-17 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-17 19:19 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-17 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 15:18 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 16:31 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 22:47 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 11:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 13:14 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 14:16 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 22:39 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-11 23:01 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 13:08 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 13:26 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 14:12 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-12 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-12 19:04 ` Michael Albinus
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